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Saturday, 5 February 2011

More PAYE Reconciliations

In October and November last year the news was that the Taxman was issuing 6 million tax reconciliations (forms P800), for the tax years 2008/09 and 2009/10. This process is still not complete, but the Taxman has started to issue a further 450,000 forms P800 for the tax year 2007/08.

There are likely to be similar problems with inaccurate data for 2007/08 as have emerged for the later tax years, but you may not have the records to check against the Taxman's figures. If you do not run your own business you are only required to retain your tax records for 2007/08 until 31 January 2010. If you need some help checking a tax calculation for 2007/08, please contact us.


The Taxman has also discovered that the State Pension received by up to 250,000 pensioners in 2008/09 and 2009/10 has not been taxed as it should be. When a person retires they normally receive an occupational pension paid by their former employer, or an annuity paid from their personal pension scheme. In either case the payments will be subject to PAYE and will have some tax deducted by the payer. The pensioner may also receive the State Pension, which does not have tax deducted by the payer (i.e. Department of Pensions), but it is taxable.

The PAYE code applied to the occupational pension or annuity should take into account the amount of State Pension paid, but for up to 250,000 pensioners in 2008/09 and 2009/10 it did not! This meant those pensioners paid too little tax through no fault of their own. The Taxman will not collect the tax due in these circumstances, but only where he can identify the State Pension has been missed altogether.

If you receive a P800 tax reconciliation which shows tax has been underpaid due to an inaccurate figure of State Pension, you have good grounds for asking the Taxman to write-off the tax due under Extra Statutory Concession A19. This concession applies where the Taxman failed to make use of information (such as the State Pension figure provided by the Department of Pensions), to calculate the right amount of tax. We can help you apply for the A19 concession.

For specific taxation advice, or if you have a tax question you would like answered please contact neil.harries@harrieswatkins.com

For tax tips and information visit the Bridgend Accountants website or read more useful tax articles at Accountants Pontypridd.

The author does not guarantee the accuracy of any information provided in this article and recommends that you do not take any action, whatsoever, based on the information provided. By the fullest extent permitted by law, the author does not accept any responsibility for any actions you may or may not take based on information contained in this article. This article contains general information and is not a substitute for specific independent professional advice. In addition it is emphasised that much of the information provided in this article is time sensitive and information contained within it may be out of date.

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